Firearm and Gun Forums › Firearm and Gun Forums › News › “Examining gun violence is as inherently disingenuous as discussing spoon obesity. You could make owning a spoon a felony, it would reduce spoon eating by 99%, but it wouldn’t impact the actual issue; obesity” – Me
MemberDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
Shower thought/rant format;
I thought that was clever. Actually, a better analogy would be to say “spork obesity” because the vast majority of violence does not involve guns at all in the same way that the vast majority of overeating does not involve sporks.
– Gun violence is a tiny percentage of overall violence
– Guns deter violence to a large extent
– People looking to commit acts of violence have endless substitutes of other weapons to include black market guns.
We all know how statistics are cherry picked to make points. The absolute truth is this; gun control has a negligible and immeasurable impact on overall crime and violence. There are THOUSANDS of variables that impact crime rates so you can’t just compare places with strict gun control to places with less gun control.
For a fascinating example of this read the chapter from the book Freakanomics on crime. iirc The biggest reason for the drop in crime in NYC when Guiliani was Mayor was simply because 18 years earlier they invented the birth control pill. Most of the worst crime were committed by kids raised by single-mothers. The next biggest variable was keeping the most violent criminals in prison longer.
No matter how you slice it gun control does not have any meaningful net-positive impact.
Also, it makes sense to deduct the drug/gang related violence when looking at these stats since they’ll maintain access to black market guns.
MasterOfIllusionsGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
Did you just fucking quote yourself?
BabySkinCondomGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
“…it would reduce spoon eating by 99%”
NO IT WOULDN’T – THIS IS THE MAIN POINT.
You thought it was clever when you totally fumbled the ball.
Mohammad_was_a_pedoGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
They will probably be banning spoons soon in London. Will have to change your analogy.
whoNeedsPavedRoadsGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
My shower thoughts are usually “oh fuck I left my towel and clothes in my room” but pro gun thoughts are acceptable as well. Despite other people criticizing your over simplified, unoriginal views, at least you want to protect our rights.
Don’t quote yourself. You’re going to show up on another anti-gun sub
UrHeftyLeftyBestyGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 6:26 am
> I thought that was clever.
It was not.