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  • Guns for sale – inside an American gun show – BBC News

     Charles updated 11 months, 2 weeks ago 2 Members · 2 Posts
  • Charles

    Member
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

  • Mike Ikezoe

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    if she needs a laser to shoot she's a bad shot

  • Al Tay

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    For all the Europeans that don't understand our way of life here in the United States if you take a small city or town where a lot of its residents have pistols you won't be seeing any crime there you'd have to be stupid

  • Al Tay

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    I wonder if this BBC idiot goes around to stores in the United kingdom and ask the store owners why are they selling knives??

  • Strait Jacket

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Go back to England and stay there your presense or council is not wanted

  • MVTTXLVRSON son

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    I love America and our constitution

  • MVTTXLVRSON son

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    You guys are kinda pussies

  • Captain Crispy

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Doy doy guns bad guns bad

  • Informed American

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Dear BBC, please extend our most sincere gratitude to your fellow countrymen for our right to bear arms.

  • Arlo Hogerheijde

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    It's amazingly funny to see Brits try and understand the 2A

  • J Butz

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Whiny ass Brits. That's all.

  • AR Jones

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Worry about your own country. Why in the hell are they worried about america?

  • Mick Peacher

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    There is bad knife crime in London it is really sad

  • J Hutch

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Hey BBC. Your opinion hasn't mattered in 243 years.

  • A M

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    “What’s this for?” It looks cool bro

  • Hue Janus

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    I bet the Hong Kong residents really with they had the second amendment right about now

  • Alexander Patton

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:35 am

    Piss off you British commie

  • Aguru female brawlstars

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    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    1:09
    GUN SAFTY 101

  • Landen Maupin

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Brits call our school shooting ranges but there Country is A bombing show

  • Landen Maupin

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Who else would only go there to buy a Garand and Lee enfield ?

  • TheTruth

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    He called a semi-auto shotgun a rifle. What an idiot

  • mickey rat

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    That building is full of Republicans & Diabetes

  • Henryguitar95

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    You Americans are so deep into your gun culture that you can't see the harm it does, it is legitimately insane and you are all in denial. Per 100 thousand people, there are 0.06 homicides in the UK compared to 4.46. For every 1 gun-related homicide in the UK, there are 74 In America.

    Now for suicides. There are 7.32 per 100 thousand gun-related suicides in the US compared to the UK's 0.15.

    Now with these statistics in mind consider that 43% of people in America live in a household with a gun in it and 30% of Americans own a gun for themselves. That is compared to 1% of the UK residents, and the only legal weapons here are double/triple-barrel shotguns, muzzleloading pistols, and single-shot bolt-action rifles. On top of that, the laws are very tight here and you can only own a gun for very specific reasons such as work or sport so the majority of gun owners are farmers who own shotguns.

    The case of owning a gun to protect yourself is something that is only applicable in a culture where a large majority own guns. As of 2017, there had been 16.3 million concealed weapon permits issued in the United States. Thirty-one states allow the open carrying of a handgun without any license or permit, and fifteen states require some form of license or permit in order to openly carry a handgun.
    Now to me, that is not a world I ever want to live in. Where people can openly or secretly carry guns around with them. The point isn't about self-defense as so many think it is. It is more about the individuals that decide to use it for murder. Not every single person that has a gun can be trusted, regardless of background checks. People change and they can do bad things for many different reasons. The argument to fight fire with fire will never result in extinguishing the problem. Also, illegal guns are a trickle-down problem of a culture that so openly accepts guns in the first place. Do you think the UK has a serious problem with illegal guns in comparison? The answer is no.

    As far as knife crime goes, the argument about defending yourself by shooting someone who has a knife is for the most part ridiculous. People don't charge at someone they want to stab like a medieval battle, it's something that happens up-close and when you don't expect it or don't have time to pull out a gun.
    And as for defending yourself with a knife as opposed to with a gun, of course it will be less effective but how often do you really think this situation arises for the average lore-abiding citizen? I don't know the statistics on this but I can tell you with certainty it is extremely low. Home invaders are not there to kill you in 99% of cases, they are there to steal your possessions so as long as you don't threaten them you won't die. Now in terms of the argument "but if you did have a gun they would leave" – well this is maybe true, but what is also true is if the home invader had a gun as well they would consider shooting you before you shot them and then you truly are in a very dangerous scenario. When criminals expect you to have a gun then they will feel much more obliged to shoot or threaten to do so. And also to have a gun to defend yourself at home then increases the availability of guns significantly beginning the problem of everybody feeling obliged to own a gun because everyone else has one.

    And lastly, as it is some of the most common talks when it comes to gun problems in the US. Mass shootings and terrorism. I'm not even going to bother looking these statistics up because you can find them easily for yourself but the amount of scenarios where you could defend yourself from a terrorist attack with a gun is so astronomically low that it is just a pointless argument.
    And as for mass shootings, this is the problem with availability to guns, the unpredictable. All I can tell you is that I can count the number of mass shootings in the UK since I was born (1995) on my own two thumbs. And one of them, the Dunblane shooting in 1996 called for tighter laws on handgun possession. The other Cumbria shootings involved legally bought shotgun and rifle which only makes an even better case for making the weapons completely illegal to buy.

    If I were you America, I would start by making your laws much tighter on guns, for example, making automatic rifles illegal and only allowing guns to be kept in someone's home or to be carried in a safe and locked case to a shooting range. Just some ideas.

    Sources:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Great_Britain
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings
    https://southdowngunclub.co.uk/how-to-get-gun-license-uk/
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4593169/gun-laws-uk-different-america-us-carry-public-concealed-weapon-trump-shootings/
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/mar/25/gun-ownership-firearms-certificates#data
    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/firearm-certificates-in-england-and-wales-2010-2011
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41488081
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#cite_note-78

  • Friendly Neighbourhood A.I.

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Brits trying to figure out individual autonomy, their brains can't handle such high level of abstraction. Pathetic.

  • Parzalai

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Take away legal guns you take away the ability to defend. Gun laws won't do anything, it'll just make the illegal gun market flourish

  • smalltownmoto 1

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Right to bare arms! 👍🏻

  • KingGrooms747 Dwayne

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Don’t try and make us look bad because the British let their government strip them of their rights and let the Muslims take over and continue to strip them of rights like France

  • Christopher Medeiros

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    listen to that man !!

  • Dillon Murray

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    You don't live in America. Why do you give a shit. If the news actually payed attention to the news, you'd see a reason to carry.
    The entire reason the second amendment exists is to protect ourselves and our property from those wishing to take it or harm it, at the time being YOUR country.
    Go back over the pond and solve your knife issue..

  • Joseph Bird

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Mind ur own business

  • SoundMaster

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Oh its beautiful.

  • trucidotk

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Nice try BBC, guns are why America isn't British territory.

  • Tommy Montanez

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    Fuck anyone who isn’t man enough to protect his or hers loved ones .

  • Cheese Does Gaming

    Guest
    December 14, 2019 at 8:36 am

    The “Gun Show Loop Hole” is literally just a private citizen being able to sell a product. It’s literally the same thing as buying coffee from a street vendor instead of a company like Starbucks

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