MemberDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
As a 2A supporter in a career of anti-second amendment peers (mental health) I want to know your thoughts. Many mentally ill, low income and others threaten or use violence with firearms. When you have clients who threaten or have killed themselves with firearms or domestic violence survivors who were also harmed with firearms you have a different point of view based on those experiences.
Many here would make correct claims that it is our constitutional right, it protects us for government tyrranny etc. This is not effective with those who work with victims and perpetrators alike of gun violence. At the same time any attempt to curb or talk about limiting access to firearms is met with ‘its a slippery slope’ sort of stance.
I believe we need to deveolope a better dialog with the opposing side rather than just clashing heads. In the end, I am a 2A supporter but I also believe we need something to change. I just don’t know what that change is.
In response my question to this sub is what can we do to curb gun violence?
(If grassroots, how? If governmental, how? If we should leave it be, what do we tell those that continue to face gun violence in their own lives or neighborhoods? Etc)
bassjam1GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Step one is forgetting the term “gun violence”. We don’t track bare hand violence, or knife violence, or auto violence, or club violence, so why do guns get stuck scrutiny?
Second, end the war on drugs. Most of the violence is gang on gang related, and most of that is do to illegal drugs.
Freeman001GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Cureviolence.org. decriminalize and tax drugs. Use drug tac money to pay for mental health programs.
jHugley328GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
We need fucking hope. There are people who feel as if everything is hopeless and feel there is no other alternative. Depression has been at all time highs and people feel they have nothing to live for or they feel they need to kill to get a point across. I have hope in the form of a 2 year old boy who needs me to help him in this crazy fucked up life of ours. Ive been at the bottom where i had a taurus revolver to my head with hammer cocked. What stopped me was my own thoughts of morbid curiosity of where was this fucked life of mine going. Not the best reason but here i am.
So with that said we need to figure out a way to instill hope into these hopeless fools who would hurt others or themselves. Because banning the device will only have them seeking the next device.
learathGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
First step would be ‘stop lying about it’. Second step would probably be ‘no really, if you stop lying about it, it becomes possible to deal with the problem rationally’.
Sorry, I realize that ‘stop lying’ is incredibly offensive to your dogma.
LordsnowwGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
I have another thread going on /r/foodforthought if anyone is interested on a similar topic.
soggybottommanGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
Step 1: don’t disarm victims
Step 2: seriously stop it
Step 3: are you fucking kidding me are you going the wrong way on purpose