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  • New to the shotgun world

     Tony updated 10 months, 1 week ago 2 Members · 2 Posts
  • Tony

    Member
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    Hey fellas, Im about to purchase my first shotgun and I need tips. What would be a good all around gun? Dove, quail, duck, etc. Any suggestions? Ive heard stoeger was a good brand but for comp. Skeet shooting. I’d appreciate any tips!

  • maddslacker

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    The answers are these:

    1. Go to the gun store, fondle all the shotguns they have and see what mounts to your shoulder the most naturally and points with the least adjustment of your eyes/head.

    1. If you can, go to a range that rents shotguns and shoot a few and again, see what fits and works best *for you.*

    1. And finally, try the search feature. This exact question has been asked 999,999 times.

  • TheWheelGatMan

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    I love my browning bps. Its a bottom ejecting pump.

  • atlantis737

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    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm
  • TheTaxman_cometh

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    You left out the most important thing, what’s your price range?

  • SakanaToDoubutsu

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    This question doesn’t really have a good answer. In reality, anything form 28 gauge to 10 gauge can be sufficient, even if it’s not optimal for one reason or another. My point is don’t worry to much about getting exactly the right gun right out of the gate, just get something sufficient and learn what you like as you go.

    The most important thing with a shotgun is fit. Shotgun shooting is an art of finesse, so finding a gun that moves naturally with your body makes it far easier to hit targets. Fit is determined by your height, weight, and proportions.

    Gun weight is important for controlling how a gun swings. If a gun is to heavy, you’ll struggle to move it around and lag behind your targets. On the other hand, a gun that’s to light will move more unpredictability. That being said, if you favor the heavy side, the gun will have less felt recoil, but be heavier to carry. So if you plan to do things that involve a lot of shooting but not so much carrying, like waterfowl hunting or target shooting, you can push the gun the heavy side. On the other hand, if you plan to do things like upland hunting where you do more walking than shooting, you can get away with a lighter gun. A gun should be about 4%-5% of your body weight.

    Barrel length also effects swing like weight. Shorter barrels swing faster than longer barrels, but the difference between a 26″ and a 30″ barrel is somewhat marginal. A long barrel makes it slightly easier to judge lead when doing it consciously, but you want to push pointing the gun into your subconscious as quickly as possible. Fiber optic/Hi-Viz beads are a detriment, so always go with something a bit more discreet. Your eye should be focused on the target and you take the gun to it. Anything that distracts your eye from the target will make that target that much harder to hit. A vent rib is nice and pretty much standard on new guns, though not entirely necessary for a field gun. So don’t pass up a good deal on something used if it doesn’t have one. Also interchangable chokes are a plus, but also not necessary. Modified is generally the best all around in a fixed choke gun.

    Length of pull (the distance between the trigger and back of the stock) is determined by your height and arm span. If you are a man between 5′ 6″ and 6′ 2″, most guns come from the factory with a sufficiently close length of pull. But if you’re shorter than that you’ll need get a shorter stock or buy a compact gun. Most companies sell spacers for the butt pad if you are unusually tall.

    Gauge should be determined by a guns weight. If a gun is to be heavier than 7 pounds, it should be 12 gauge. If it’s lighter, go 20 gauge. Unless you plan to shoot a lot of ducks or targets, I don’t think you’ll ever be at a disadvantage with a 20 gauge.

    Action wise, O/U guns seem to be the trend in all the clay games. Though, they are suprisingly difficult to manufacture, so the cheap ones always seem to have problems. Autoloaders seem to be the best middle ground compared to O/Us in speed and functionality, at the expense of some mechanical reliability (though a good autoloader will be very reliable). Pumps are slower than autoloaders and less reliable in terms of user induced malfunctions, but tend to stand up to neglect better than autoloaders.

    One note on autoloaders, there are three main action types, long recoil, gas, and inertia. Gas guns tend to have the least recoil, but have a tendency to struggle in extremely cold and wet conditions. Though I hunt in Minnesota where it gets quite cold, and haven’t had issues personally. The inertia action is very common these day, it is extremely reliable but doesn’t do much as far as recoil reduction. Long recoil guns are the Genesis of the autoloading shotgun, but this action type has fallen out of favor, though they still can be found quite regularly on the used gun rack. Though they may need a little work to get them back to 100%.

    As far as manufacturers go, Europeans make the best guns. In a standard factory gun, Benelli, Beretta, and Browning really are at the top of the pile. CZ, Franchi, and Stoeger also have pretty good reputations. American makers just aren’t what they used to be, so if you want an American, buy used. I generally stay away from anything Turkish, but you can generally do alright if you buy one backed by a western manufacturer.

    So to summarize, start with a gun between 4%-5%. If you’re of standard build, the factory stock fit should be alright. Barrels between 26″-30″. If the gun is over 7 pounds, 12 gauge, else 20 gauge. Buy European. Hope this helps!

    Everyone will have their favorite gun, mine is a Remington 11-48 20 gauge with a modified choke. But you can really learn to shoot anything fairly well.

  • cstanfield14

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    Thank you everyone for your help! I think I’m going to go with a Remington 870.

  • Albino_Echidna

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    I’d avoid stoeger personally, but try several and see what fits you

  • Wolfir

    Guest
    December 17, 2019 at 6:54 pm

    What’s your price range?

    Twelve-gauge is the most versatile. Twenty-gauge is certainly very versatile as well, but I think twelve-gauge is still superior if you want the gun to be a true all-around hunting tool.

    Your choices are to get a pump gun, a semi-auto, or a break-action gun. I think a pump is probably the best option. Semi-autos have less recoil, but I don’t think recoil is going to be a huge issue unless you’re a really avid waterfowler . . . the magnum shells needed to take down ducks and geese can certainly pack a punch on your shoulder, but plenty of people get used to that recoil with a pump gun.

    The most affordable pump gun is the Mossberg 500. The Mossberg 500 and the Remington 870 are both affordable and highly customizable guns, but a lot of people say the new Remington 870s have quality-control issues.

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