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No more confederate flags at 2A events!
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N0_Tr3bbl3
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amI don’t think we should be flying them anywhere. The Confederacy was a different country. They were specifically *not* Americans when that flag flew. It makes as much sense as flying a Prussian flag. It has absolutely nothing to do with firearms rights
Also, it offends a shit ton of people who we want on our side. They vote and are just as essential to helping safeguard our freedoms as anyone else.
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DrewPeacock98
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amI think it primarily has to do with the fact that it’s been around for so long. Most people who fly it don’t realize it’s about racism. It’s become a country boy thing rather than a racist thing. Southern pride not white supremacy, white pride I could see. But there is a thing as black pride and Latin pride, there’s nothing wrong with pride. But yeah racism is wrong just people are misinformed and many times people attack them for it. Like that video of the guy pulling up to do some work for a black couple. He was refused work because he had that flag on the back of his truck and he looked extremely confused as to why, because he doesn’t see it as a racist symbol but a southern pride symbol. Misinformation and miscommunication. I don’t fly the flag and I see how at one point in time it was definitely a race thing, but times change and meanings change. Gay used to mean happy and now it means homosexual. Regardless, hate doesn’t help the situation from either side. Just my two cents that nobody cares about.
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caelric
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amFly whatever flag you want, but don’t expect me to respect you for flying the flag of a traitorous loser.
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cosmolinesandwich
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 am“Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.” We need as many allies in our community as we can get. The rebel bars are pretty off-putting to a lot of people… no reason to hang on to something that makes us look like a bunch of evil, ignorant assholes.
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amI agree, we should also expect the same from commies and socialists. Any ideology that’s against liberty is not welcome.
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Cant-Fix-Stupid
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amI’m from the South. Symbolism can change over time. The Swastika started out as a religious logo, then was appropriated, and is now largely seen as symbolizing a hateful regime. By the same token, I’d argue that even if the Confederate flag was started by slave owners, and even if its display post-Civil War was used with racist intent, that what the flag (or any symbol) symbolizes is not objective fact. People displaying the flag are not necessarily agreeing with the racist origins of it; I think some of it has to do with being proud of being from the South for all the cultural things that make us unique. To say that all we are as a culture is racists with racist roots is absurdly reductionist.
All of that said, I think we should **not** display as a 2A symbol.
As symbolism is subjective to those flying the flag, it’s subjective to those who see you fly it. I don’t look at Confederate flag and instantly jump to racist, but a lot of people do, and we don’t want to alienate masses of people out of stubbornness. Especially true when better symbols exist (Gonzales flag and No Step On Snek). We need their support, and stopping the use of ambiguous symbols makes us less of a target for judgement, and makes us more open to minorities.
Last, we also have to realize that the flag is still used by people who do use it for its original symbolism: white supremacy. I wouldn’t display the flag publicly because even if all my symbolism logic is sound and people buy it, I *still* can be confused with white supremacists and those that actually wish the South would have won. Not worth the hassle to me, and it doesn’t seem worth it for our cause.
Given the choice between a Confederate flag or more American gun owners, it seems like an obvious choice.
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Gun-nut0508
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amWe are about armed protection and the right to bear arms, not racism
– Signed, a Mexican-American Pro-2a advocate
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amYeah they lost the war, not sure why people fly the flag. Seems unpatriotic.
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thisispoopoopeepee
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amI mean fly what you want sure….but just because you can do something doesn’t mean one should. Like i could get within 5 inches of someones face and whisper prayers to moloch, doesn’t mean i should.
We need more minorities and the letter people (not three letter) in the 2A circle. Because once we have some 5 tone hair color gender fluid wolf kin buying an AR-15 we’ll be able to stop the steppers from taking our guns in more way than one. Because once those people start realizing some of their elected officials want to take their favorite gun away…… well lets just say democratic primaries will get interesting.
So actually yes…inclusivity might be a good thing
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TheGreatPoopWizard
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amFly whatever you want, this is America. Put up a banner of Mickey Mouse jackhammering Hitler in the butthole while the Pope watches if you want to.
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amFly it wherever the hell you want. I would never do it myself, but I’m fucking tired of getting my teeth kicked in by the left. Why are we letting these people set the dialogue? Do you think they’re going to finally relent if you give up this flag? Do you think the media will finally start running good coverage of you? Fuck these people.
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 am*becomes Yugoslav flag*
**OH NO**
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NightmanisDeCorenai
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amStop flying shit like that and it makes it easier for those of us who don’t publicly masturbate to a severe gun fetish to get more people into the hobby, making it harder for liberals to pass anti gun legislation.
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TypicalLibertarian
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 am>No more free speech at 2A events!
Later on…
>No more firearms are 2A events!
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Abacus87
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amNotice how they’ll always make demands of you, how they’ll always tell you what to do and any dissent against their commands will be met with reprisals.
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amIt’s only a matter of time before the Gadsden flag is banned.
Three percent shit [too](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tattoo-controversy-wears-new-patriots-kicker-justin-rohrwasser%3famp). Fuck the NFL by the way. I hope COVID grinds them into dust and every city that gave away taxpayer money to suck the dick of rich franchise owners goes bankrupt.
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trapgoose800
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amThe more hate I see for the rebel flag the more I want to fly it
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TheGreatChicagoPhil
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amAt this point if you’re carrying a Confederate flag, you might at well go back to your hillbilly shanty. Nobody respects that.
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SANDERS_SHRIVELED_PE
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amMeanwhile the commies are free to have their commie flags wherever they want and theyre free to say whatever they want and theyre free to burn whatever they want and theyre free to assault whoever they want. But maybe.. just maybe.. if we bow to their every demand they’ll eat us last.
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Johnbongjovi420
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amThe narrative that you learn about in public government funded schools is not the reality of what happened FYI.
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voicesinmyhand
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amShould we tell them about Alabama and Florida? Or should we just let them think something is fixed?
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WifeofTech
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amArticle is misleading as most southern states still fly their Confederate flags (it’s their state flags) only most people aren’t educated enough to know that.
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Nimitz87
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amso what’s next no more Hawaiian shirts and Gadsden flags too?
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[deleted]
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 am[deleted]
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BeauRyker
GuestJanuary 26, 2023 at 12:04 amScrew you.