MemberDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
I want to buy a rifle. I want it primarily for deer hunting in thick TN Woods, but I am also very interested in 3 gun competition. The dilemma falls in that I know an AR-15 would be the best thing for me, but I really am not into all the tactical stuff. I prefer the aesthetics of traditional hunting guns, i.e. blued with Walnut stocks, checkering, etc.
To do both 3 gun and deer hunting effectively, it should probably be:
* Around a 20″ barrel
* Preferably an autoloader, could also be a pump or lever action
* 2 moa accuracy
* Ideally .257 caliber or larger
* 30 round mags available
* Ammo is cheap and readily available
Does anyone have any advice?
74MEXICANSGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Doesn’t want an AR.
Describes an AR.
TacTurtleGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
CETME or FAL if you like wasting money for 3 gun.
LockyBalboaPrimeGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
>Does anyone have any advice?
Grow up and embrace the AR-15.
Or get an AR-15 for 3-gun and a cheap bolt rifle for deer.
averagejoeshootingGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Lol you want an ar. Also 3 gun rifles are like 16 or 18 in.
jeropian-flyGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Look up AR15s with wood furniture if you’re not afraid to nut.
zSchlachterGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
The gun described will suck ass as a competition gun, sorry not sorry. for 3 gun if you want to be competitive you need a light weight ar or ar derivative(ex mcx) with a carbine length barrel
PwnApeGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Caedus_VaoGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Get an AR with wood furniture, call it good.
SabnitronGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
So get an AR that doesn’t look like “all the tactical stuff.” Or a mini-14.
stlicemanGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
I just picked up a Henry All-Weather 45-70 that’ll have no problem in thick woods. Take anything TN has in the timber.
Then get ya the AR.
roaming_artGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
obracer12GuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Wood, blued, cheap and plentiful ammo, greater bullet diameter than .2xx…. need to fit into 3 gun- large round capacity, quick to reload… 20-ish inch barrel, not the AR platform, can also hunt with it in the woods/brush gun…
An AKM of any kind would fit the bill. AK47, AK74, NPAP, OPAP, etc… plus a rail and red dot, maybe a 1×4 or 10 power?
jewelgem10GuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Brownells retro AR10
TheBlindCatGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Mini 30 or M1 Carbine
24ktAK47GuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
I’m sure bolt action rifles of the day seemed pretty tacticool in 1920. They were staples of individual fighting implements in WW1. They became the go to hunting and competition rifle following WW1 because they were effective and familiar to the masses who had fought with them or been taught to shoot by those who did.
So, you can choose to pass up on today’s best tool for your job for an esoteric reason, or just take advantage of the technology available to you and be grateful you live in the golden age of small arms for US citizens. If you go with the latter, I say do a whole WW1 themed 3 gun load out. Bolt action rifle, 38 revolver, and a pump shotgun. Maybe hunt with a 30-06 with iron sights.
hamknuckleGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Mini 14 or 30
wittgenstein_luvs_uGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
BAR? Or just be the dude lugging around a Garand.
ovi_PacerGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Gonna have to compromise on weight a bit here, but the M1A, PTR, FAL, and FNAR all come to mind as autoloaders that will take a deer, and still be useable for 3G. Heavier, but .308 ammo is plenty easy to find. Otherwise, I’d say a levergun is your best bet, in any of the myriad of calibers that they’re available in, really.
rafriGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
StielgranateGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Mighty-Bagel-CalvesGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
You really don’t have any options for larger caliber cheap ammo other than 7.62×39 and maybe 6.5 Grendel if you find a match that lets you shoot steel cased ammo.
An AR-15 isn’t tactical if you don’t make it that way. Sounds like you pigeon holed yourself. Imo just buy an affordable bolt gun like a Savage axis, Ruger American, or a Tika for hunting, then get whatever you enjoy shooting for 3 gun.
JustMeAgainMargeGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Springfield M1A or Ruger Mini 30
WolfgangxZGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
I would suggest taking a look at the InRangeTV series and watch them do some matches with the older guns and then watch them do it with the WWSD rifles they made. Basically they said they love doing the matches with the old guns and having fun but you aren’t there to win. But when they used the WWSD rifles they said they forgot about the rifle, it wasn’t the problem compared to the old guns where everything from reloading, recoil, and weight make them an issue. That being said, I think ovi_Pacer is right with the gun choices he listed to get as close as possible to what you want.
tyraywilsonGuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
N0_Tr3bbl3GuestDecember 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
This is what you want.