MemberDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I have an old climber that needs to be upgraded so I am looking for recommendations for a light climber that’s easy to use and won’t break the bank….. I am also interested in possibly moving in to saddle hunting. Who has done and what do you think about out? Tips or tricks? I was looking at tethered and they have a package that has everything but how to climb it.,,, so how do you climb with a saddle. I am really sorry for the million questions I asked!!
BrjskGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
[summit viper climber](https://www.summitstands.com/summit-viper-sd-climbing-treestand-mossy-oakr-camo)
I use this one and I like it a lot it’s like 20lbs and I got mine for 200 so I’d look other places
JicandGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
With a saddle you need steps for climbing and a platform for the top.
ReleasedKrackenGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I’ve used a saddle with a lower end of a climber – probably twice as complicated as i needed to make it but i loved the convenience of the saddle. Waaaaay more comfy than a climber and with better visibility. I essentially used the “climber stand” method to climb in and out, but without the weight etc of the top of the climber.
trippingmanGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I have a Summit Viper and it’s very comfortable to sit in. Less comfortable to carry, especially if you put any more weight on it (like attaching a backpack). It also has a full wrap around frame which gets in my way while shooting unless I keep the upper part very low and sit with my knees in uncomfortable positions. It’s a great gun stand.
This year I bought a https://x-stand.com/x-1-mini-climber/ and it’s very light (half the weight of the summit). It’s also very small and if you are much bigger than I am (5’10” and 170lbs) you seriously may not fit on it. It’s also harder to climb with. It does however not get in the way of the bow at any angle and I’m willing to take it much farther into the woods, though you still need to consider getting the deer out.
No idea on a saddle, though if I had heard of them before now (thanks!) I might have gone that route vs the small stand.
drerwGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I ordered an aero kestrel flex a couple weeks ago. Wait time is 8 weeks plus unfortunately, but man I can’t wait to try it. If you’re considering it you should really watch the video by NYsaddlehunter on the DRT method of climbing! I bought and received the rope already. I’m pretty excited to try it out. I am scared i won’t dig it, but I’ve spent so much time researching and going through opinions online it seems worth the attempt.
AK281292GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I’m also in the same boat. I’ve been leaning more towards the saddle option just because of how limited you are with a climber. As for getting up in the tree I’ve been noticing that the Wild Edge Innovation steps are a huge hit among the saddle community. I recommend checking out “Saddle Up!” on Facebook, they’re a great group of people for any questions. Also Wild Edge’s YouTube page has a bunch of great videos, at least I believe it’s their page. I’ll update when I find the correct one
MykeKiloGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
What did y’all think was better?
Fitstang09GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I am looking at the saddle because I can go further with a lighter kit overall and setup is much quieter than my current hang on/stick combo. You can also setup on different style trees of varying thickness. If you use a climber, it needs to be pretty straight and have limited branches. If you’re going to spend the extra cash, I’d be sure to compare to something similar such as a lone wolf.
dalcant757GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I do both, with the climber being an SRT RADS setup using a rock climbing harness and tree saddle. My climber is a viper sd.
I like to nap in the stand during rifle, so I prefer the climber even though it’s heavy and slow to ascend. I don’t really bow hunt yet, but I’ll be using the saddle for that in the future.
jmseekerGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Saddle is definitely the way to go. You need sticks or steps and a ring of steps or platform for the top. Check out saddlehunter.com lots of good info
brettmnewton08GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Check out NY Saddle Hunter on YouTube for a different way to get up the tree. They use a drt method which doesn’t require sticks. Less gear, less bulk, less weight. It’s not for everyone, but you can do some research on any common arborist tree climbing methods to get up a tree without having to spend all the 💰💰on climbing gear.
tomsawyer444GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Hunted out of a climber for the last several years. Always was skeptical of them, for a number of reasons: slippage, weight, bulk when traveling through thick brush. Last year started looking into the saddle setup, I did the DIY with climbing harness/SitDrag combo, it’s a nice setup, but a few pieces to keep up with. It’s been a game changer, I will never go back to a climber and honestly prefer the saddle setup to a ladder stand or lock on. When Trophyline came back out this year from dormancy, I purchased one, it’s a good saddle. The comfort level is about equal IMO, but the TL is one piece so easier to deal with. I have used Wild Edge steps the whole time and really like them, they are extremely compact and easy to use. I recently started using a knaider/swaider, using that combo I can get 22’ with 5 WE steps and use two more steps to create a ring around the tree and eliminate the need for a platform.
aaronmill13GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Before I start, let me state that both have a place in my run and gun setup. There are a few areas that I hunt where a climber would never work and a saddle is great for. It’s awesome being as minimal as possible and pretty fun to hang in a tree. I’m also terrified of heights and get sketched out in treestands over 20 feet, but feel totally secure in the saddle no matter how high I’ve made it.
Climber for me. A saddle was great and felt like a game changer at first, but over time I’ve come to realize that the climber is still best for me. The climber I use is 18 pounds, and my saddle setup is only a few pounds less (sticks and platform). A climber (lineman’s belt,Top and bottom of climber to tree, climb up, safety vest hooked up, gear and bow hanger, hunt) is a lot simpler to setup on the tree than an entire saddle setup (lineman’s on, sticks 1, 2, 3, and 4 on, platform on, tether on, bridge connected, lineman’s back off, gear and bow hangers on, ready to hunt).
Saddle also makes 50% (maybe more) more difficult than out of a climber as your entire right side and behind you are the weak side for shot making and require a good bit of movement. Climbers are typically just tough to shoot directly behind you since the tree is there.
Tree selection wise, I can see where saddles have a clear advantage for those hunting flat ground. The saddle also opens up nearly every single tree to be huntable. I’m hunt big woods in Appalachia so it hasn’t been a problem for me to find trees for either style. I found that the lean most trees have along with the slope actually limited me with a saddle. With a saddle, you don’t want a tree leaning towards you but I found that most trees that are huntable leaned towards me. Others would have forced me to be facing the opposite direction of where I needed to be facing. This is where the climber takes the cake for me. The lean of a tree never really hurts in a climber and I don’t have to fear taking a weak side shot.
There’s a place for both and neither is the wrong choice! Like I said, I use both! I’m not trying to bash saddle hunting at all, just wanted to share my experiences with a fellow hunter.
wyatt_burp_good_boyGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
I made the switch to saddle this year. It has been expensive to say the least, but I finally figured out my style of climb and hang. I have a tethrd mantis, and a tactisaddle, I have 1 hawk helium climbing stick, a 5 pack of wild edge stepps, I have 8 squirrel steps, I have a bullman outdoors ring of steps, and I have a ridge runner platform on the way.
My advice is figure out what you want during the off season and practice like crazy in areas similiar to where you hunt.
I will never hike in with a climber on my back again, but it does take me longer to climb a tree, but I can climb damn near any tree I want to with just 1 hawk helium and my saddle. My feet go numb after 3 hours on a ring of steps, switch is why I have the ridge runner on order. It was going to show up faster than the tethrd predator otherwise I would have gone with it.
Blake437GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Like it has been said, summit viper Sd is the move. I got mine brand new for 130$. Im in the south and find them 110-150$ on fb market or craigslist. I also put a hazmore seat on mine only upgrade ive done (20$) and I love it.