MemberDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
What is everyones preference on the matter ? im both curious and debating.. is a standard manual safety (cocked and locked) better or worse than a decocker or decocker/safety for a SA/DA hand gun and why ? I want some experienced opinions on the matter. As someone very new to guns I feel like a decocker would be better especially one that also functions as a safety with a single push of the thumb but what does everyone else think ? any situations where you wish you had one over the other ?
TheGunslingerStoryGuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
As an experienced shooter comfortable with my firearms I personally much prefer a decocker only model, with no safety. A firearm will not go off without the trigger pulled and its very hard to accidentally fire a gun in double action since it has a long/hard trigger pull. The safety to me is just something that could accidently get pushed on when I need the gun to function, whether that’s for self defense or competition.
Manual safeties have they’re place though for many people. If you don’t feel comfortable carrying a gun without a safety for the love of god don’t do it. Having one typically makes a lot of newer shooters more comfortable and confident to carry, which is great. A lot of people also like a safety to engage when holstering their firearm since that’s the most common place that guns accidentally discharge, getting the trigger stuck on clothing or whatnot.
Finally a double action with a safety might seem like a great idea, but keep in mind that most of them turn on the safety when the gun is decocked and you have to remember to take the safety off every time if you want to carry with the safety off.
Let me know if you have any other questions, happy to help!
bangemangeGuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
Super subjective. If it were me it depends on how I planned to carry it. I shoot production for USPSA so I’m used to the hammer down thing, but I also don’t mind manually lowering the hammer. If I shot limited I may be more into carrying cocked and locked. In either case, I prefer safety models due to the triggers being slightly better on CZs in that config. They will also not allow you to engage the safety when the hammer is down.
zmannz1984GuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
I came up on 1911’s, so I have always been fine with cocked and locked carry. However that also requires a bit more discipline and a proper holster. I now carry a S&W shield and opted for the safety model because I am already in the habit of having and using the safety.
Given the choice, I would take a decocker if carrying a DA/SA. Physics-wise, I think it would be harder to trigger a negligent discharge with the much heavier trigger+ longer length of travel vs the small flip of a safety plus a light trigger pull. But again, it all comes down to proper handling, habits, and holsters.
CruzeCNTRLGuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
I have both types and am pretty comfortable either way. I would let other factors influence your decision (size, caliber, costs, conceal-ability, etc.) more than this, and whichever you end up with, spend enough practice time to get familiar and comfortable with it. I’m a long-time gun owner though – if you’re very new, you may be nervous with the cocked-and-locked setup.
lekkerdoodGuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
I like my DA/SA to be decocker only. But that’s totally a preference.
Above was the best answer. Find something that fits your hands, conceals well, and fits your price point and then just train the hell out of yourself.
I’m faster out of my holster to first shot on target with a DA pull them most of my training buddies are with their striker fired pistols. That’s completely because I practice presenting daily from concealment.
xjrob85GuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
My thoughts are that safeties are for competition, and decockers are for combat/carry.
The advantage to cocked and locked is that you get a nice SA trigger pull on the first shot as well as the subsequent shots. You have to train to consistently deactivate that safety though.
The advantage to decocked and no safety is that you get a safe trigger as well as a simple manual of arms. Just draw and shoot.
my_name_is_chaos_2GuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
I prefer da/sa plus.
OneExpensiveAbortionGuestDecember 16, 2019 at 7:56 pm
I carry condition 1 and have for around five years now. I pretty much won’t carry a gun that doesn’t have a good, tuned trigger in single action and a manual safety.