MemberDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
San Jose, CA airport… TSA cut my Abus locks. Luckily I had spare locks inside, but I’m kinda upset and frustrated. Anyone know what now? Any advice?
**Edit: People asking questions and I’m now able to respond:**
> Were you traveling with any firearms?
Yes, I was traveling with a Glock 19 & Ruger LCP II both in their own soft cases which were placed inside my locked Pelican case. I did declare the firearms when checking in and filled out the Southwest firearm declaration.
> Were there other items in the bag/case?
Yes, there were clothes, two Glock magazines, a small box of Hornady Critical Defense ammo, toothbrush (no toothpaste), hairbrush, spare locks in the event this very thing happened, flip flops, etc.. Nothing even remotely questionable – that’s why I just get toothpaste when I land or use some from where I’m staying.
> Were you called over the intercom?
I was called over the intercom ~2 minutes before people started boarding. I was asked to hand over my key so they could bring it to TSA as they needed to get into my bag. I was not allowed to accompany the key. I made it clear that I am not comfortable with their systematic way of committing felonies; however, this is common practice at Norman Y. Mineta San Jose International Airport, [please see this inquiry which I sent to TSA as both a Security Issue and a Request for Information on November 22nd (anticipating they may ask for the key again)](https://i.imgur.com/6k7fHzy.png).*
A person from Southwest brought the key to TSA and ~10 minutes later another man from Southwest came back with both my spare locks and the key to my original locks. He asked me if I could unlock the spares so they could put them on the case as TSA had cut my other locks. He also stated, “They thought there was a gun in there.” To which I replied, “There are… that’s why I declared them.”
*Note: Those asking about the message I sent to TSA, I was informed on November 24th that they forwarded a copy of my message to the Customer Support Manager at the airport. Nothing else, no other response since.
AJRobertsOBRGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
That’s not compliant per their own rules. I’d talk to someone.
maplesyrupchinGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
$10/ hour people with power. Move on
isaac62GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
They are not supposed to do that. I would be pissed but I have no idea what to do.
Sea_Beast123GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
I’m all for TSA to go bye bye. All they are is the illusion of safety..
mirmilnirGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Wish I could tel you to say something but I wouldn’t. I’ve had TSA lose and break hundreds of dollars of stuff and somehow end up feeling worse after dying something because they basically just yell at you till you stop complaining.
HardcorePatriotGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
What do you expect from people that look like they are on work release. They always look and act like they are there for a get out of the ghetto program. TSA are worthless fucks.
alienvalentineGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Follow Deviant Ollam’s guide here.
santaclaws351GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Id say just to cut your losses at this point. TSA will put you through the ringer for no reason, and unless you are active duty military they pretty much can.
IHTFP08GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Did they call you over the intercom to bring keys or combo to the TSA checkpoint. I always pay attention to the intercom when I fly with guns. I fly with NFA stuff too so they’ll get a nice call from the ATF if anything goes missing.
yunus89115GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Contact the agency via their website and respectfully explain the situation, if that doesn’t get you anywhere, contact your Congress persons office and ask for assistance. You won’t talk to your Congress person and they’ll never hear about it but their office will send an inquiry to TSA which will respond to the inquiry and likely will have reached out to you prior to their response to Congress.
Source: I’ve worked congressional many times before, the SES across government are concerned with them. Not that they care about you but they don’t want to look bad to Congress.
Azara1thGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Why anyone believes these braindead morons are effective security is beyond me.
velocibadgeryGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
File a complaint with TSA, and talk to a lawyer about a lawsuit m
IlikegundealsGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Same happened to me. They were nice enough to tape my cut up lock to a TSA letter though.
OneshoeleroyGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Very sad when it’s less hassle to ship guns than to just bring them with you
N5tp4ntsGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Was there a gun inside the case? You didnt specify
-Woogity-GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Aren’t they not allowed to open the cases? And you’re specifically supposed to get locks that are NOT tsa approved, right? (Not saying you did this)
They should have to pay for new locks and if they did break a law they should be held to the same standard anyone else would be held to.
zma924GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
I’d be interested to see what would happen if you didn’t travel with spare locks. I travel with my guns often and only have the two locks that are on the case. They would definitely be breaking some major FAA guidelines/laws if they were to just cut your locks and throw the bag back on the plane.
capecodcaperGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
I think you’ve done all you can without involving lawyers.
TSA is a monstrosity. I got in trouble with TSA because I had a buttstock in my luggage. It was the buttstock from a DP 28 machine gun. They said because there was a serial number on it that it was a firearm. The cops that came to respond to the violation of the airport said it was stupid as fuck that they had to waste time to go there.
Well, they had to have been the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. They put me on a list that made me suspended from pre-check for a year. I appealed, and they canceled the suspension but it kept me worried for a while.
cavemans45GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Need more detail on thos was it obvious there was a firearm in the bag or just a locked case? Small airport big airport? Other items in the bag? Did they call you over the loudspeaker and you just didn’t hear? There are so many factors into this. But instead of calling up tsa at the airport and ask why you come on here to complain.
ClearlyInsane1GuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Are you sure that TSA is who cut the locks? There are non-TSA people that have access to your checked baggage. Someone does owe you new locks regardless.
N5tp4ntsGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
When you declared them at check in did they put the xray tag thing in the case ?
GreenBeretSnakeGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
I feel like it would be easier at this point to just transfer it to an FFL and pick it up when you get to your destination
StarfleetTannerGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
TSA ain’t cops…don’t comply if they are violating their own rules AND the law.
DirtyBristolBoiGuestDecember 14, 2019 at 11:30 pm
Thought I was on r/blackladies for a second there.